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Conversations about what makes a good man and more

Jim Lawrie

UB Podcast

S1: Jim Lawrie

In this episode we speak with musician – singer/songwriter Jim Lawrie. For the past decade Jim has made a name for himself as an emerging independent artist – his latest album Slacker of the  Year has drawn critical acclaim with The Music magazine saying ‘he should be considered one of this decade’s finest songwriters’.

Jim Lawrie’s songs explore a range of ideas and emotions from love, loss to the joy and wonder of life.  As a multi-instrumentalist (originally a drummer, then guitarist and singer) his music creates sonic images reminiscent of bands like Fleetwood Mac, Jackson Browne and Neil Young.


01:06 – Introduction
02:02 – Feels Like it Happened in a Dream
03:01 – What goes into making an album
10:15 – Creativity and process
12:40 – Art making: counter-cultural?
15:33 – Slacker of the Year
24:37 – Would he do things differently?
25:54 – Loss and disconnection, mental health
29:43 – Ties That Bind
30:20 – The role of art in working out emotions
34:24 – Advice to parents of aspiring musicians/artists
39:35 – What makes a good man
40:56 – A story he’d tell a 14 year old boy


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Season 1

10 episodes
Episode 10

Jim Lawrie

This podcast will be a little different to our usual format we’ll explore Jim’s artistry as a young man, talk about growing up and his thoughts on masculinity.

Episode 9

Michael Reichert

Michael explains how the paradigms about boys needing to be stoic and ‘man like’ can actually be destructive and the key to changing the culture lies in how parents, educators and mentors help boys develop socially and emotionally.

51 minutes
Episode 8

Megan De Beyer

International parenting expert Megan De Beyer gives her tips on how to navigate the challenging teenage years and foster connected, meaningful relationships between parents and sons.

48 minutes
Episode 1

Tim Costello

Reverend Tim Costello speaks with Dr Ray Swann about faith and the importance of modelling empathy in the shaping of good men.

33 minutes
Episode 2

Lisa McCune

Lisa McCune, one of Australia’s most successful screen and theatre actors, shares her experiences on mentorship, motherhood and modern manhood.

40 minutes
Episode 3

James Kerr

James Kerr, author of Legacy, discusses how he uses the power of storytelling to reach out to young men and encourage them to have a good understanding of self and authenticity.

31 minutes
Episode 4

Steve Biddulph

Steve Biddulph AM is an Australian author, activist and psychologist who has written a number of influential bestselling books; and lectures worldwide on parenting, and boys’ education.

28 minutes
Episode 5

Simon Rice

Leading mental health researcher, Dr Simon Rice outlines a collaborative research project with BGS around positive masculinity to improve outcomes for boys’ mental health.

34 minutes
Episode 6

Liz Dawes

Liz Dawes speaks earnestly on helping children deal with loss. She shares her son’s own battle with brain cancer and her continued determination to raise awareness and funds for a disease which kills more young people than any other form of cancer.

29 minutes
Episode 7

Jeff Kennett

Jeff Kennett AC, founding Chairman of beyondblue, speaks on what it takes to be a good man today and shares his aspirations to reduce the impact of depression and anxiety in the community.

21 minutes